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Hi in that location,

My 2002 C200 has some surface rust on the front wheel arches. Does anyone know a crude price to have them repaired/resprayed? It had some $.25 that needed doing when I bought information technology, just looking to go it polished upwards and give it some TLC.

Thanks,
Lewis

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wu56Shoozz
Photos may aid united states of america.. as cost could be anywhere from £50 quid to 000's

Secondly information technology all depends what kind of job you lot desire.. recall the motto "You pays for what you get.."

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Photos may assist united states.. as toll could exist anywhere from £fifty quid to 000'south

Secondly it all depends what kind of job you lot desire.. think the motto "Yous pays for what you lot get.."


And then this is the only movie I have, but is the worse of the 2. The other 1 is no where near every bit bad.
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All I'm really after is for the rust to become and information technology to be repainted in that surface area. Doesn't demand to be a full respray on those panels unless it definitely needs it.

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Rust usually starts on the external wheel arch surface because an accumulation of mud behind the wheel curvation lip holds h2o and route salt This attacks the paint behind the curvation and this so migrates under the paint to the forepart of the arch. To achieve an effective long term solution the rear of the bicycle arch lip has to exist cleaned and treated at the aforementioned time every bit the front end otherwise the rust will return adequately chop-chop- say in 9-12 months fourth dimension. Of course a quick cosmetic job can be done on the wheel curvation exterior simply it probably won't final too long! . I notice likewise your car pigment is metallic silver-- this is notoriously difficult to match accurately and best left to a pro such as a adept mobile paring repair/touch up pigment guy imho. I am telling you this considering I have been down this road before!
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Rust unremarkably starts on the external cycle arch surface considering an accumulation of mud behind the bicycle curvation lip holds water and road salt This attacks the paint behind the arch and this then migrates under the paint to the front of the arch. To achieve an effective long term solution the rear of the wheel arch lip has to be cleaned and treated at the same time as the forepart otherwise the rust will render fairly quickly- say in 9-12 months time. Of class a quick cosmetic task tin can be washed on the wheel curvation exterior just it probably won't terminal too long! . I detect also your car paint is metallic argent-- this is notoriously difficult to match accurately and best left to a pro such as a proficient mobile paring repair/touch up paint guy imho. I am telling you this because I have been downwards this road earlier!

Thanks Grober. If I go for the full repair/treatment, how much am I looking at?

Thank you,
Lewis

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My 2002 C200 has some surface rust on the front wheel arches.

This was the original post mentioning forepart arches. Normally I'd just suggest replacing the wings as the way to go.
Nevertheless, we so got this picture: -
So this is the only moving-picture show I have, but is the worse of the 2. The other one is no where well-nigh as bad.
IMG_0096.jpg

Which, unless my eyes are worse than I thought, is a rear curvation? The right way of repairing that would exist to cutting the quondam curvation out, then assault whatever old rusty metal underneath it, replacing with new. Finally refit a complete new bike arch. Non a inexpensive process but one which should concluding the life of the car, at least if done properly. The alternative method would be to grind information technology all out, fill and repair where necessary and hope for the all-time merely it looks similar that way has already been tried on it.
Doesn't need to be a full respray on those panels unless information technology definitely needs it.

I'm sad to be the bearer of bad news simply it volition need a lot of paint. As for cost I wouldn't like to hazard a judge but it won't exist cheap if done the right way.
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This was the original postal service mentioning front arches. Normally I'd just suggest replacing the wings equally the way to become.
Notwithstanding, nosotros then got this pic: -

Which, unless my eyes are worse than I thought, is a rear arch? The correct way of repairing that would be to cutting the old arch out, then attack any old rusty metallic underneath information technology, replacing with new. Finally refit a complete new bike curvation. Not a cheap process but 1 which should terminal the life of the car, at least if done properly. The culling method would be to grind it all out, fill and repair where necessary and hope for the best just it looks like that mode has already been tried on information technology.

I'm lamentable to be the bearer of bad news but information technology will need a lot of pigment. As for cost I wouldn't like to adventure a judge but it won't be inexpensive if done the correct fashion.


Ha. Don't worry, you're not blind. Yes the picture show is a rear curvation, it's the other one that's a front. My mistake.
Thanks for the response though, I'll have to weigh up how long I'yard really expecting to keep the car. 2-3 years at nigh?

One last question, are nosotros on the way to an MOT failure?

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If they go sharp edges they can fail an MOT but gaffer tape fixes that!

Looks like someone has had a go and it's caked with filler. They will need chopping out and new sections welded in. Whether you are bothered about the paint looking a different shade volition touch the quote a lot - someone fussy might end up painting the sides to alloy information technology in.

It will be an uneconomical repair... but say for example it's had a agglomeration of other work done and it's otherwise in expert nick you might be tempted to exercise information technology anyhow rather than chance another auto. Would cheque everywhere underneath for more rust before committing. Somewhere that does a lot of archetype motorcar/resto work will have the nearly feel dealing with this sort of affair.

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I'm sorry to exist the bearer of bad news only it will need a lot of pigment. As for price I wouldn't like to hazard a guess but it won't be inexpensive if done the right way.

It will be an uneconomical repair... but say for example information technology's had a agglomeration of other work done and it'due south otherwise in good nick you might be tempted to practise it anyway rather than chance another car. Would check everywhere underneath for more rust earlier committing. Somewhere that does a lot of classic car/resto work will accept the most experience dealing with this sort of thing.

I don't wish to seem rude only, to echo the posts above, proper repairs are unlikely to brand economic sense. A 16 twelvemonth-old C200 with very visible rust issues (and probably a lot of less visible ones too) is non worth a lot and the cost of fitting new metal and having it painted to a good standard will almost certainly to come to more than the machine is worth.

If you can alive with the car in the condition that it is in then you may be better off just running it for every bit long as possible and avoiding any major outlay.

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I don't wish to seem rude merely, to repeat the posts above, proper repairs are unlikely to make economic sense. A xvi year-old C200 with very visible rust issues (and probably a lot of less visible ones besides) is not worth a lot and the price of fitting new metal and having it painted to a good standard will almost certainly to come up to more than the machine is worth.

If you tin live with the car in the condition that it is in then yous may be better off just running it for as long as possible and fugitive any major outlay.


Not rude at all. Completely understand your points. I've had a quote for £300 per arch, to repair and respray (only not blend). I guess if there'south no structural integrity risk and then it was more to brand me feel ameliorate. It's my beginning good car (my last 1, which was besides my first car, was a 2000 Suzuki Swift!).
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Looking at that photograph, the rust has travelled up under the pigment, making things look ten times worse. I would have a body shop grind it all dorsum to see how bad the rust really is, if it has not eaten into the metallic besides far, a grind off, rust treat, repair and respray might well last quite some fourth dimension.
Of course, you lot could save some money by agreeing to grind of the rust yourself, leaving the repair and respray to the trunk shop.
And i have to hold with above, you go what you pay for.
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Not rude at all. Completely understand your points. I've had a quote for £300 per curvation, to repair and respray (but not blend). I guess if at that place's no structural integrity risk and then information technology was more than to make me experience better. Information technology's my first good car (my last one, which was besides my showtime car, was a 2000 Suzuki Swift!).

That seems less than fair toll, I payed £200 for my Arch to be washed IIRC... and that included spraying upto the rear quarter and blending.. and sealing the curvation with a silicone sealant to prevent information technology reoccuring
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wu56Shoozz
Okay less of the care mongering and more what the all-time solution..

Yous have to decide 2 factors really..

How long y'all intend to keep the car, and what kind of person are y'all a/washed proper won't return OR b/ bodge chore similar the i y'all have at present, just when it comes to sell could be difficult..depreciation will have an upshot..

Many years ago I had a vii Series with that problem - I got new wings and went to town building them up with rust treatment etc finishing in iii coats of wax.. 7 Years later (Yeah yous saw correct..7!!!) and the edges of the wing were mint and so much so you could cut your manus on them.. and they were perfect!!
Training is fundamental to this exercise.. the longer you accept the ameliorate it will turn out..

If information technology was me I'd get quotes, store around.. continue your eye on the rear wings in instance y'all could get a good un that can be reused..or new off ebay etc.. and salvage up a bit and go for information technology!!

Two new front wings, a boot lid and bear upon in on a door cost me £600 notes - only that was a dealer shop a few years ago, but was a perfect match in silvery too...

Your da Dominate mate - you make the call...

P.S My Mate is a Classic Car buff - massively into Cortinas (He has 10 the terminal fourth dimension I counted!!) So, he has a rather special Crayford Cortina MK3 of which there are only 2 official vehicle in the UK.. And then, he'south built this one in Daytona Yellowish.. all was well until the tin worm appeared on the rear arches.. now, he'southward well respected in the "build" industry.. and then he gets a couple of repair arches off Ebay.. genuine ones, nothing only the all-time.. and takes it to some other mate who'south superb at the welding game.. so the human activity was washed and the panels were cut out and repair panels installed and what a chore, seriously the best e'er and I'm an engineer no distortion nothing... The auto is completed and painted in one case more...until a mate arrives and says that the rear tail light is downwards 1mm on the left .. nosotros all got in on this "Yep that'southward correct its definitely downwards..." Was it Feck .. just winding him up..next we knew the auto was wheeled into the garage and all that perfect welding was cut off in favour of ii rear panels from OZ that were genuine replacements... what a tw4t!! Never laughed so hard..

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All above is very good communication, best thing to practise if y'all are not handy yourself is take it round a few body shops.
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A tip I was given by a licensed shipping engineer was never to return unused rust treatment liquid back into the bottle, decant some into some other container, utilize, discard unused and do not put the brush you use into the fresh fabric

The reason given was that you transfer rust into the unused liquid which continues to react with the rust and degrades the effect next time you use it.

I accept used them and had practiced results

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A few years back I bought a pre painted (night green) front end wing for an old Opel Astra. Information technology bolted directly on and was a cheap (ish) convenient fix.

Ironically the rusty wing I had to replace was one that had been repaired later a modest 'ding some years previous. The balance of the 100000 mile 16 year sometime car was rust complimentary !

Non sure if they do them for MB, store around online. can't for the life of me recall where i got it from. Skilful luck.

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